Sean:
Hi Geoffrey
An interesting question was raised on here last time and I
think I'd like to hear your views especially as you do quite
a bit of TV including Countdown.
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John
McDonald: We have been lucky in this country to have
some great television magicians: David Nixon, Tommy
Cooper, Paul Daniels, Paul Zenon, Wayne Dobson and
more recently Derren Brown. Each have their own particular
style of presentation which suits their personality
and their magic.
This is a huge question and I don't really expect
an answer but I'd really be interested in your view.
What is the future of television magic?
Do you see a lot of "variety" shows with
a lot of different types of magic acts? Or Do you
see another Paul Daniels type of show emerging? or
something else?
It is always good to see magic on television but some
recent shows have failed to communicate the real meaning
of magic, the feelings of wonder and innocence of
childhood when everything was magical.
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A very interesting question in my opinion
Geoffrey
Durham: Hi Sean
Yes, a very interesting question. I've done well over 1,000
TV shows in all sorts of genres, and I've been very lucky
to seek out the outlets on TV that would help my career. But
having said that, I'm not at all sure that anyone, least of
all me, can predict the future of magic on TV.
There are two important factors with regard to British TV
that we have to bear in mind: (1) Each network is now in the
hands of one person - not a committee, as used to be the case.
(2) TV shows are only commissioned if they are cheap.
That means that there will never again be big TV shows with
big production values, like The Best of Magic or Paul Daniels
or David Nixon. All TV shows for the foreseeable future will
be small scale.
And because the network controllers are obsessed with novelty,
everything has to look new.
Derren Brown is definitely going stay big, and get bigger,
though I suspect that the bigger he gets, the more interested
the press may become in his methods.
Stephen Mulhern strikes me as a real tip for the top. I thought
that ten years ago, and I've had no reason to change my opinion.
I have a feeling that Danny Buckler may well become a big
name as well.
I'm a big fan of David Blaine. He is the only foreign magician
ever to become truly popular in Britain,
and that is because he does exactly what the British require
of a magician: he is very plain and simple with no starriness,
and his character is clear and consistent. The British hate
to be told they are "ABOUT TO WITNESS THE IMPOSSIBLE"
or go on a "JOURNEY TO THE CENTRE OF THE MIND" or
other such stuff. When people talk like that to a British
TV audience, the whole nation turns over and watches the news.
Which is why, I suspect, David Copperfield has never caught
on with the British lay public.
So here are a few thoughts: if we get more variety shows (and
I suspect we might) they will be cheap and small scale; new
and up-and-coming magicians will have to find new ways to
present themselves (compare with David Blaine and Derren Brown);
the American influence will only work with the British if
it's done on a small scale; and finally, there will always,
always be room for new and original talent.
Geoffrey
Sean:
Great reply Geoffrey. Just one more thing. When you say
that TV execs are looking for novelties and things now, combined
with the reality TV phenomenon that we are having, can you
see a Magic Idol or something similar taking place in the
near future?
Geoffrey
Durham: Yes of course. Good idea. Why don't you approach
a TV exec with it?
Aged
Magician: Geoffrey, your post makes me think how true
the old Gigi song is to me, "Oh, I'm glad that I'm not
young anymore."!! 
At least us oldies have seen the magic of the past.
Paul
Smith:
Sean
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can
you see a Magic Idol or something similar taking place
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I can actually confirm that there is talk about such a show
going on already. I'm a professional set designer for TV shows
and was one of the consultants for the set of The Quick Trick
show, so I know young Stephen Mulhern personally. He's a fabulous
guy and I agree with Geoffrey that he is pretty big at the
minute, and will go on to huge!
Sean:
Hi Geoffrey
In another post the advice you gave was:
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1.
Read, read, read. Read good books, bad books and indifferent
ones. Read magazines, old and new. Try and read three
magic books a day. Never stop reading. Understand
that reading is a better learning tool than video,
DVD, lectures and magic clubs all rolled into one.
(Though you'll need to join a magic club to use their
library, I suppose...) |
On that note, what would you suggest? There are of course
the obvious choices of say RRTCM for card guys and MCM for
the coin guys, but what else other great books would you suggest
for an upcoming magician, or even some of the older ones!
We never stop learning, do we?
Geoffrey
Durham: Hi Sean
Well, how long have you got? I could spend the next three
weeks recommending you books!
I've already said in another post that I warmly recommend
Classic Secrets of Magic by Bruce Elliott as an ideal
first magic book. It contains such wonderful stuff, and by
such fine magicians. There's a lot of Dai Vernon in the Ambitious
Card routine, and the Card on the Ceiling is by Jay Marshall.
And so on. And Elliott makes such beautiful connections: the
Rice Bowls leads him on to a brilliant Glass of Wine from
the Air, for example. And there's lots more like that.
Bruce Elliott's other books are terrific as well: Magic
As a Hobby, Magic 100 New Tricks (entitled The
Best in Magic in the US) and Professional Magic Made
Easy. Each one really excellent. I've just looked up all
four of his books on abebooks.com (an excellent second-hand
book site) and they're all there, some at knockdown prices.
We should all have read the classics, of course. Everything
by Devant, Robert-Houdin, Hoffman and Vernon. Oh, and the
dear old Tarbell Course goes without saying. And Sleight
of Hand by Edwin Sachs contains the best description of
a successful magician that I've ever read. Greater
Magic, too, by John Hilliard - crammed with tiny inaccuracies,
but really fascinating, and full of strong magic.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that because this stuff
is old, it's also old-fashioned. It just isn't true. It's
all useful to us all now.
I like reading old magazines. I would single out the bound
editions of the Phoenix, Hugard's Magic Monthly
(there's a trick from that in my new theatre show) and the
quirkiest and probably most useful of all, Chap's Scrapbook.
Books of old running orders are a help. Holden's Programmes
of Famous Magicians[/I] contains the acts of a huge number
of wonderful performers, from Chung Ling Soo to his own time.
Many of the magicians I can remember myself! And Taylor's
Spotlight on 101 Magic Acts does the same thing in a slightly
different way.
When I was starting out as a stand-up magician, I found Billy
McComb's book 25 Years Wiser a real goldmine. And I
read everything by Roy Johnson, Alan Shaxon and Al Koran as
well as devouring absolutely everything ever written by Sid
Lorraine.
Eugene Burger seems to me to be required reading. His first
book Secrets and Mysteries for the Close-up Entertainer
should be set as an exam, and you should have to get 90% before
they let you into a magic club!
Finally, two books to curl up with on a winter's evening.
David Bamberg's Illusion Show is the best evocation
of a travelling magic spectacular ever written. And Todd Karr's
The Silence of Chung Ling Soo recreates the man like
nothing else I've ever seen. He really lives.
My own favourite magic book is very hard to get hold of. Magic
of Robert Harbin is a beautifully written description
of the man's greatest tricks. Always inspiring, and an absolute
delight from beginning to end.
Well that's a start. I'm sure I've left a lot out.
Geoffrey
Paul
Smith: Very in depth reply Geoffrey and I'll definitely
look out for some of those books.
Geoffrey
Durham wrote: |
I
like reading old magazines. I would single out the
bound editions of the Phoenix Hugard's Magic
Monthly (there's a trick from that in my new theatre
show) and the quirkiest and probably most useful of
all, Chap's Scrapbook |
My question basically is, how could you get your hands on
such magazines? I'd assume there are specialist dealers for
this sort of thing?
Geoffrey
Durham: Hi Paul
Well, a quick jaunt round the Internet has revealed that H
& R Magic Books have bound copies of the Phoenix for sale,
new. Abebooks.com have a lot of Hugard's Magic Monthly at
various prices second-hand. I haven't found Chap's Scrapbook
yet. It may be harder to track down because it's so damned
good, but I bet you'll find one in the end.
If you're a UK resident, I find Adrian Harris in Perth very
useful for second-hand books.
I realise that I never recommended the best and most obvious
book for card enthusiasts. The Expert at the Card Table
by Erdnase is absolutely invaluable, it seems to me. I particularly
like the (expensive) edition edited by Darwin Ortiz, called
The Annotated Erdnase. A real treat.
Geoffrey
Sean:
Who are the two worlds best magicians at the minute? I
always try to find two as I don't think it's fair to compare
skill with entertainment. For example, David Blaine is a hugely
entertaining magician, but I would never compare him with
someone like Daryl. Therefore my question is, who is the most
entertaining magician in the world and who is the most skilled
magician in the world at the minute in your opinion?
Geoffrey
Durham: Hi Sean
Hmmm.
Well, I can't really draw a distinction between an entertaining
magician and a skilled one. Skill without the ability to entertain
seems utterly futile to me.
Restricting my choices to people I have actually seen live
(because the video camera can hide a multitude of ineptitudes)
I would say that the most skilled magicians I have ever encountered
were Juan Tamariz, Rene Lavand and Lance Burton.
I was four feet away from Lance Burton as he did his dove
act, and I was at the side of him, and I didn't see a thing.
Every time I meet I meet Juan Tamariz, I ask to see a trick.
He always does the same one. He takes a pack of cards from
its case and asks me to name a card. I do. It is the top card
of the pack. I know how he does it, and somehow knowing makes
it all the more wonderful.
Rene Lavand uses his skill to such effect that he actually
has the ability to move people with his magic. Very hard to
do.
And the most entertaining? Well, those three would give me
a start and Salvano from >Poland always leaves me utterly
enthralled. I enjoy Mac King very much.
But I guess my final answer is probably Juan Tamariz in both
categories.
Geoffrey
Paul
Smith: Hi Geoffrey!
It's great to get to ask you questions. I have fond memories
of your crackerjack days and when I found out you were answering
questions, I had to pop in!
I was just wondering if there were any additional techniques
that you use to make your magic more powerful to your audiences.
I already try to employ things like resolving all questions
before the climax, removing any unnecessary patter/movement/time,
and tuning into the spectator's reactions to refine the effect
later on. However, I do find that I'm searching for more methods
to make the magic more powerful.
Cheers,
Paul
Geoffrey
Durham: Hi Paul
All your suggestions are good.
If at the end of all that, you find your magic isn't powerful
enough, it's perhaps not the magic that needs help. Because
the magic can only take you so far, and then after that you
need to look at yourself., and see how you can make yourself
more powerful.
By "powerful", of course, I don't mean "strong"
or "big" or "important". The power of
silence can be very telling. And talking quietly. And pausing.
As I've said before in other posts, rhythm is the most important
factor in getting your magic to work, and getting it to reflect
and enhance your personality.
Because, make no mistake, nobody in the world ever
wanted to see a magic trick. Not even you. What they want
to see is an interesting person doing a magic trick.
Good luck with it!
Geoffrey
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