Chabang:
Our
guest this week is a personal hero and something of a legend
in the UK magic scene
Originally leaping onto the magic scene as the Irrepressible
"Great Soprendo" on crackerjack (a "foreign"
magician with a legendary style & dubious facial hair)
by the 90's Geoff had stepped out from the shadows and become
something of a house-hold name; making regular appearances
on TV shows and hosting the (much missed) "Best of Magic"
TV Series with a young Anthea Turner and Italian Quick-Change
Maestro Arturo Brachetti. In recent years he has become a
regular guest on cult quiz show Countdown helping to puzzle
viewers even more with his little miracles.
Despite clocking up probably more TV appearances than any
other UK performer Geoff can still be found touring the UK
with his one-man show which seems to be in constant demand
across the country.
Famous as an all round magician and one of the genuine nice-guys
in the magic world it is my pleasure to introduce our special
guest......
Geoffrey Durham!
Admin:
I'd like to offer Geoffrey Durham a very warm welcome
to Magic Bunny. We are indebted to professionals such as Geoffrey,
in the input of top-quality feedback in this forum and so
I would like to offer thanks in advance for the considerable
time and effort that Geoffrey has offered to set aside in
providing this service to our site.
Thank you so much Geoffrey for offering your input. I am so
looking forward to seeing the questions of our members and
your subsequent replies. I am sure that many of our members,
as well as myself, will gain so much from your input and hone
their own ideas and ethos from this too. Here is a very heartfelt
"thank you" for allowing us all to benefit from
your knowledge and experience.
Thank you.
Nigel.
Michael
Jay: Thank you for taking your valuable time with us over
the upcoming week, Mr. Durham. I'm looking forward to this
week with you, I hope that you shall find it as stimulating
and enjoyable as we do!
Again, thank you.
Mike.
Geoffrey
Durham: Well, thank you all for having me. I'll do my
best to come up with replies as soon as I can, but there may
be days in the coming week when you'll have to wait a bit.
Apologies in advance for that, but don't let it stop the questions
coming!
Graham:
Mr
Durham,
Often I find comedy magicians use their humour to hide their
lack of true skill, whereas your skill is a wonderful example
to us all. Do you deliberately use your comedy to disguise
just how good a magician you really are, so that when the
effect hits the audience the impact is further amplified?
I fondly remember your performance of "Dean's Box"
on "Countdown". The only time Richard couldn't think
of a thing to say. You fried 'em. You knew it and we loved
it!
kind regards,
Graham Nichols.
Geoffrey
Durham: Thank you, Graham.
Thank you particularly for your kind words about Dean's Box,
because I thought I'd done a bad job that day, and I've never
seen it, so I didn't know it had come off OK!
I'm not sure about the comedy thing. I certainly don't try
to hide the skill with the comedy. I'd be very happy if the
audience thought I was skilful!
It comes down to expressing my personality really. It doesn't
actually matter what tricks you do, so long as the way you
do them expresses something about you. I find I express myself
best through a lightness of touch, and through not taking
the material too seriously. So I guess you could call that
comedy.
You know when you see a magic competition, and there's someone
up there who can do the moves right, and the trick looks fine,
and they're smiling nicely, and there's nothing actually wrong
- but it doesn't work?
Well, what's wrong is that they aren't expressing their personality.
Usually, what's actually wrong technically is that the rhythm
is wrong. But it's the rhythm that expresses the personality.
So when I can't get a trick right (there are about three tricks
in my current new one man show that I change every night for
just this reason) I alter the rhythm, and as I alter the rhythm,
so the effect on the audience changes. And slowly, the trick
and my personality start to coincide.
When a trick gets cut from my show, it's almost never for
magical reasons. It's always because it won't do anything
to express me to people.
So that is where the comedy comes in, I think.
They don't come to see your tricks, they come to see you!
Geoffrey D
Huw
Collingbourne: Hello Geoffrey,
Magicians (yourself most notable among them!) don't generally
seem to have a problem mixing comedy with magic. But most
mentalists take a very serious, straight-faced approach to
their performance.
Do you think there is something essentially humourless
about mentalism or are mentalists, by nature, just a gloomy
bunch of people....? (and if so, what can we do to introduce
a bit more fun into the proceedings?)
best wishes
Huw
Geoffrey
Durham: Hi Huw
Well, I do some mentalism in my current show, and it's not
exactly jam-packed with gags, but I do OK with it. When I
opened this new show, though, I had quite a bit more mentalism
in than I have now. Maybe that tells us something?
Graham Jolley is a wonderful performer, I think, and he is
there to prove that you can express yourself through mind
reading and comedy if you tackle it the right way. And that
is by letting the comedy bubble up through you, rather than
laying it on the top, if you see what I mean.
The difficulty lies in how to express the climax of a mind
reading trick other than by being portentous and important.
Because those tricks just seem to cry out for us to be heavy
and solemn, don't they? But we don't have to give in to it
if we don't want to.
In my current show, I conclude my version of the Stanley Jaks
Brainwave routine by telling them that I can't look, because
I'm so scared I've got it wrong. And I look at the final turnover
of the card through my fingers, like a ten-year-old watching
Jaws. It works for me, because it de-mystifies the climax,
and gets me more applause as a result.
I often follow a mind reading piece with a piece of cod mind
reading, like the Bar Code. That works for me, too. It just
depends on your personality. It wouldn't work for Derren Brown!
Geoffrey
Michael
Jay: I realize that there are different nuances with bad
and good for both, but, since you are prolific both on the
television and on stage, which would you say is your favourite
genre, if you have one, and why?
Mike.
Geoffrey
Durham: Hi Michael
It's a difficult one this, but I think it has to be the stage
work that I love the best. It was how I started, and I still
regard it as my life's work, and I try to keep learning about
it all the time. When I appear on TV on the other hand, it's
almost invariably the first performance of the trick I've
ever done, and chances are it will be the last!
The show I now do most on British TV is an odd, quirky little
game show in which I do a two-minute spot half way through.
The show has only two camera shots available, and I have to
do a trick with no camera rehearsal and no re-takes. I never
see it until it is transmitted. I've done 150 of these particular
magic spots now, and I love devising and performing them,
but I never learn too much about the individual trick by doing
it this way. Lots about how to be on TV, but not much about
the actual magic.
When I appear on stage, on the other hand, I just never stop
learning and seeing how to perfect the moves, and trying it
this way, and that way, and re-designing the props, and just
generally keeping the show lively and fluid.
They're different jobs, I think. And I do love TV. But it's
stage that does it for me every time.
Geoffrey
Graham:
Mr
Durham,
Magicians are often seeking the "holy grail" of
effects that will catapult them onto the front pages of the
world's press. It's like schoolboy soccer: kick and run. One
performer has great success with a particular genre or effect,
and the rest cling round like iron-filings on a magnet. The
herd of wannabees chasing Derren Brown's tail right now is
a case in point.
Modern over-availability of magical secrets has created the
magic consumerist, who flits from effect to effect just because
they can. As "necessity is the mother of invention",
do you feel that the wealth of information available actually
stifles creativity? Being spoon-fed rather than having to
feed ourselves?
kind regards,
Graham Nichols.
Geoffrey
Durham: Hi Graham
This is a big topic.
I think there are basically two kinds of magician. There are
magicians who are in it to entertain audiences, and there
are magicians who are in it to entertain themselves. Obviously,
it isn't quite as simple as that, and there are a lot of areas
of crossover, but I hope you see what I mean.
The obvious conclusion to draw from that would be that the
first category are basically professionals, and the second
lot are basically hobbyists. Well, actually that hasn't been
my experience - there seem to me to be quite a lot of professionals
in the second group and vice versa.
If you do it to entertain yourself, it stands to reason that
you will become fascinated by methods and secrets. You will
want to learn four or five methods for the pass, three double
lifts and seventeen ways to do the Diagonal Palm Shift. You
will scour the magic magazines to see what's new and buy the
latest thing as soon as you can your hands on the cash. You
will see someone do a trick on the TV, and have a huge, incandescent
passion to know how it's done.
If you are like that, you are keeping the magic dealers solvent,
and it's hardly surprising that that you are catered for so
well by them. There's money to be made, and I certainly don't
blame the dealers for doing what they do. I don't blame the
enthusiasts either. That was how I started.
But isn't a good way to handle your magic if you believe as
I do that audiences are much more interested in you and your
personality than they are in your tricks. If you come to believe
that, you realise that you need to entertain them first and
yourself second.
But you need to take your tricks very, very seriously indeed.
So that means having a different attitude. My working methods
are based on taking a given effect and breaking it down through
rehearsal to its basic essentials; researching all the methods
that have ever been used to achieve the effect; from these
methods, distilling one that I can begin to work and call
my own; learning how to talk through the trick to express
my personality; and finally (and most important of all), getting
the rhythm right.
When I buy a trick from a dealer, I almost always remake it
and change the method or the finer points of the working,
to make it more my own. In fact I can't think of a dealer
trick I've ever owned that I haven't changed!
As Paul Daniels once said: never read the instructions!
So to answer your points directly - yes, I agree with you,
but it always been like that, and I bet it never changes!
And if you want to be successful as an entertainer you need
to find your own voice, and you won't do that by doing it
someone else's way.
Geoffrey
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