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David learned from me for free as he learned from many at Ruben's in NYC that he didn't mention in the book. I didn't know I had to prove anything. David didn't just wake up one day and say "Let me walk over to Paul Harris's house and learn from him." He started out like many magicians. Learning from the other magicians around him. What do you want me to prove? I will be happy to answer anything that helps you.

Thanks. I'm aware that you used to (and may still) run a forum on a "file-sharing" community that deals with magic. I'm also aware that you use this forum to promote and facilitate the distribution of copied videos from the likes of Jay Sankey, Michael Ammar and Penguin Magic. David Blaine aside, what I really what want to know is this; how can you justify doing this? Not only is it illegal but it is also highly amoral, ripping off your "fellow" magicians in this way. Is that what you mean when you say David Blaine learnt from you; you gave him a pirated copy of somebody else's material? I await your answer with great interest, many thanks.

That, Gold-fish, would seem to be off-topic and the last time it was discussed the topic got locked. So I am not going to answer you and I will stick to the topic of "Tarko the Great"

By the way, I'd appreciate it if you used my name rather than Gold Fish, it's at the bottom of my posts.

If you will not discuss it here and as long as you are still happy to answer my questions, will you mid Private Messaging me (again, this can be found towards the bottom of my posts) with your answer, that way we can keep this between just the two of us if you are worried of upsetting anybody else. Again, I look forward to your answer, many thanks.

I don't think I upset anyone. The topic on the other page was locked because the questions weren't getting anywhere and just going round and round. No point in keeping that up. Any questions about "Tarko the Great?" My street performers name was "Tarko the great" so I will be happy to answer questions about it.

Ok . . . Hello 'Tarko the great'

There is a great review of John Bannon's wonderful effect 'Twisted Sisters' in our Reviews forum.
I think it's refreshing in this day and age that there is still some charity in the world.
I refer to the fact that the FULL transcript for the method to this effect (and the g***s used) is enjoying pride of place in your website, available to all and sundry for the sum of . . . wait a minute it's free!
Pity it's not actually yours to give away.
And please don't claim (again) that it's not your website or that you do not advocate free exposure of any and all magic effects.

You can fool all of the people SOME of the time sir.

Adieu.

Terry Screen.

I think you should have respect for your own site you belong to here and stick to the topic which happens to be "Tarko the great," not what sites I own. That would be a different topic.

i have to agree with you tarquin this is not a thread about you or your site ,so may i suggest another thread be made ,because i for one would like to know why a so called fellow magician finds it necessary to have a website revealing the secrets of magic which other magicians have invented(or reinvented in some cases)but to be quite honest i don't think any explaination you give can satisfactorily justify the damage that your site and sites like it are inflicting on the magic community

alan

With the authority vested in me as a moderator, I hereby give my permission for this thread to go off topic.

To be honest, it's already off topic. The original topic was: "If I'm correct Tarko The Great was the man in one of David Blaine's specials..."

Various posts made it clear that Tarko The Great was a fictional character acted by Blaine. We are now talking about Tarquin's early career, apparently using the same alias.

On the other hand, if anyone wants to discuss this in a different thread, well, any member of Magic Bunny is free to start a new thread. The normal rules of debate apply, of course (no defamation, profanity or, ahem, exposure ).

all the best
Huw

Good shout Huw!

Tarquin - since the other thread got locked and you never got a chance to answer my original question (you seemed more concerned with skirting around the issue and playing semantics) i'll quote my original question:

"Tarquin, you expose more than just marketed effects – you expose effects that are not even released (such as Derren Brown's Lift) which is an infringement of copyright; in order “teach” magicians.

What absolute b*ll*cks!

What right have you got to expose copyrighted methods in the slapdash, badly explained way that you do?

I’d be interested to hear your reasoning on this"

Cheers
Daymo

Well said Daymo. Let the duel begin. hehe

My reasoning is; at the site you are talking about members have access to any trick asked about. And to answer another question that was asked at the locked page. "No, I have never been banned from any site because of my other site. I am a member in good standing in every site about magic that I know."

In fairness that has not answered Daymo's question. He asked what RIGHT you have to expose the effects that you expose. Just because it let's members see effects they are talking about is hardly the point is it really? We could say the same on this site but we do not simply because we have respect for the artform. So, again, What RIGHT do YOU have to expose other's effects?

To add to what Sam just said (and to repeat a point I made in another thread), there is - or at any rate was when the site was still visible to non members - detailed exposure of copyrighted manuscripts. I know for a fact that a version of Banachek's PK Touches was described in detail. Are you truly saying that it is none of your responsibility (either morally or legally) to prevent the illicit publication of such material on your site?

Huw

Huw,
When the site was open to the public, did you learn anything? DId you learn Banachek's PK Touches or did you just skim through what was written? If you just skimmed that you can't say for sure that it was exposed. If you read it and learned it then you too have benifited from the site we are talked about.
The major fact are there is the site we are talking about. It's about magic and learning magic and any trick asked for you will learn, no holds barred.
You learned the ambitious card trick without paying Vernon and you learned tilt and other slights without paying Vernon or Marlo and now you want to stop other magicians from learning also. Well there is my site and my sites have been around for 4 years and will be around for a lot longer. If you want to be a member of it then you are welcome. If you don't want to be a member of it then don't. I won't say anything to encourage you.
Talking about it here or asking me questions about it will not close it down so whats the point?