Sean:
You
are a professional magician and we all aspire to be professional
but what are the benefits? Obviously, there are monetary benefits,
but what else? Also, what would you class a professional?
I would say it is someone who is paid for what they do, but
you can describe someone as doing something very professionally,
so where would you say amateurism ends, and professionalism
begins? If you are doing a show to an audience of 1 million
people every week, but weren’t getting paid, could you be
classed as a professional? :-? Also, what advice could you
give to younger magicians who would like to hit the "big
time" and become famous and maybe get on TV like you?
Huw:
Ahem...
older ones too!
Tora:
Yes
Sean in fact your questions come like a rain...Let me reply
your questions as far as I can remember. Professionalism for
is on the monetary side. There are masters but they may be
amateurs. The word "professional" is not equal to
the word "master" . If you perform for 1 million
people and still do not get paid, then you are an amateur
master. We have been told to ask about someone's job as "What
is your profession ?" that is in another words; making
a living out of it. I can recommend you to become part time
professionals that is you may another job at hand when the
shows become a little bit "slack". I am an Industrial
designer and I do it as well. Nevertheless I can combine both
in my shows which becomes ideal for me. I can also recommend
that since there are many local TV's nowadays. Go to the smallest
one and show some of your skills and ask for them if they
are interested in that or not. Sure they will be... During
that performance have somebody record it at home with TV's
own logo appearing on your performance ..Now you are ready.
Have recording in your hand and you may apply bigger TV stations
now. But do give them a copy never the original. Half of them
will gladly accept you. You can do it. especially I know you,
I am sure that you can. You did not ask about it but let me
remind please DO be a member of a club in your area. Such
as IBM; SAM or alike. you will find lots of helping hand in
those clubs. And ehhh... The magic Bunny is not bad either.
DO (WITH BOLD LETTERS) spend more effort on it. This is completely
yours. Yours magically , TORA
Nigel:
I am sure that
(if your parents are still alive) that they must be so proud
of your achievements and the huge amount of respect that you
now have. Even still, in the early days, there could have
been no way that your family could have ever known of your
subsequent rise to fame. What level of support did you have
from your family in the very earliest days of your desire
to become a magician? Did your family stand by you from the
first instance or were you persuaded to, "aim for a real
job?"
Tora:
Nigel
, Indeed you are the master of hard questions. Any way; My
parents did not want me to be a magician when I was a teenager.
Because in those days the magicians in Turkey were ill-educated
or never educated people. They did not want me to be like
that. At the beginning my mom supported me because she had
a conservatory education and she knew about what might happen.
My mom's dad was a showman and my uncle is an Opera singer.
So the way was open. I had my costumes dome a little bit involuntarily
then they began to get accustomed. Now as you said they are
proud of me. And even I began to train my sisters son when
he was only three years old. He could perform when he was
nine and became a money earning magician at 10 with the help
of his 8.5 years old sister. It was lat year. You may want
to see his pictures in his page go.to/adrakadabra his name
is ARDAKADABRA. I mean the way is open for those who are coming
after me.
Huw:
Tora,
your comments about people's prejudices against magicians
('ill educated' etc.) made me think. It's interesting to consider
the respect (or otherwise) that different countries at different
times accord to magicians. My feeling is that magic in the
USA went through the doldrums post-Houdini but it has become
a lot more respectable over the last couple of decades ever
since star magicians (such as Henning and Copperfield) turned
the art into big-time show business once again. In the UK,
my feeling is that magic has actually declined over the last
decade. At one time, the British TV could always be relied
upon to have at least one hugely popular magic show on primetime
(in the '60s, David Nixon was one of the biggest of all TV
stars; later on, Paul Daniels was equally popular). These
days, though, we rarely get anything other than the odd novelty
'magic special'. On the other hand, I think mentalism is becoming
(slightly?) more popular. Certainly Derren Brown is getting
quite a bit of TV exposure, and Marc Salem also did quite
a bit of TV and radio when he came over to do the Edinburgh
Festival recently. Tora, have you found that the respect accorded
to magic has increased in Turkey during your lifetime? And
have you noticed any differences in the public response to
magic in other countries?
Tora:
I do
not think that the respect has been increase. About the magicians
of the other countries, everybody knows David Copperfield,
a few know Paul Daniels, The great Silvan and Wayne Dobson
that is all... No body knows the others even Max Maven is
not known to laymen. To be honest I surf on the net very often.
It was the first time I heard about Darren Brown from
Sean 3 months ago. We can not say we are-the magicians are
popular I guess.
Nigel:
Have
there ever been times in your career as a leading mentalist
when you have come across an event or incident that has caused
a conflict for your own set of private values and morals.
For example, have you ever been asked to contact a dead relative
of a bereaved spectator or been asked to perform an insensitive
routine that you feel unhappy with. When such incidents occur
and you, as a leading performer, have morals that are different
from a producer or director it must be very awkward trying
to establish a common ground. If ever something such as this
has occurred to you in the past, how have you dealt with the
situation?
Tora:
Nigel
in my area I am also known as a skillful psychic.
For this reason they may come and want a contact with
a dead relative or the worse want me to cast spell or even
the worse they may come to ask for breaking a spell they already
have. I handle problem in this way: I treat them like an ordinary
guest and serve tea and coffee. I tell them I will take care
of the matter but I know somebody who is more knowledgeable
so I send them to a psychiatrist. It is the field of Medicine
and I tell them that I am not a witch doctor of the tribe.
I never charge for such things. Everybody will do his own
business, not more.
Nigel:
There
many genres of magic to which language is no barrier - but
I would guess that mentalism is different. I know that you
have traveled the world and performed to a huge variety of
audiences - I also know that your English is very fluent too.
Do you ever find that your performance is hindered by language
or do you also perform other genres of magic that transcend
the barriers of language?
Tora:
Yes
Nigel Language may be a big problem in mental magic, you are
100% right. I also speak some French but I am not sure if
I can do mentalism with it, it needs a trial... BUT; I always
performed mental magic either in Turkish or in English. Only
one time in Bulgaria, I performed in Turkish, English and
somebody also translated in Bulgarian but it had lost its
impact. For me I will wither perform in Turkish or in English.
A multilingual routine loses most of its impact. EEEHHHHMMMMM!!!!
If I say I would prefer English for mental magic please do
not misunderstand me, The terms in English is now ha s become
common already, we are producing the language in Turkish currently.
It will take a little bit of time more.
Nigel:
Are
there any routines that you employ that transcend the barriers
of language?
Tora:
Naturally
any mental routine needs Language and for me translation does
not do the same thing. For All I mean.
Dan:
Hello
Tora, thanks for visiting our boards. Please could you tell
me at what age you wanted to become a magician - were you
the child who performed magic in the playground?
Tora:
Dan
I am really honest to say, I was a magician by birth. Yes
I was the kid who did magic at the playground. I was the naughty
boy who did magic in school, I was the teenager who attracted
girls by magic, I am the man who is nothing without magic....Like
most of you...
Nigel:
At what
stage in your life did you realize that you had magic in your
blood?
Tora:
If I
say at the first breath, do not think that I am exaggerating...
I was a magician from the time I can remember.
I am a magician born man.
Huw:
Maybe
this is a 'tricky' question. However, I'll ask it anyway.
If you had to pick just 1 trick which every student of magic
should master, what would that trick be? And why?
Tora:
I would
decide on two things:
1) I would give them a pack of cards and would teach
the basic sleights, then they would be able to create their
own tricks and 2)
If I would not allowed to the above one, I would teach the
famous cups and balls routine. It seems to be the basic routine
to master. For me a magician without manipulation is not a
magician. Everybody who pays for a tick may do it- even he
spoils, unless some manipulation is concerned. I give value
to both labour and skill.
Huw:
If you
had to be remembered for one effect in your lifetime - which
effect would it be and why?
Tora:
May
be I would like to be remembered with my rope routines, linking
rings and dancing cane-and may be the snow storm in chine
effect. Because I am continuously being asked to do these.
May mental tricks are not so famous yet. Maybe next year my
answer may undergo a change... ;)
Welshwizard:
Hello
TORA, Do you have any pet hates in magic? For example I hate
card tricks which have blatantly obvious mathematical workings
and people who think their area of magic is better than other
areas.
Tora:
I really
do not have pet hates in magic. May be there may be some tricks
? like less, such as egg bag (where you make an audience lay
an egg) to magic funnel (in which you take water our from
somebody 's stomach) Nooo I have forgotten to say something
I hate the tricks where you take something out of your mouth.
For example the razor blades, billiard balls etc. They are
washed with saliva and you play with them and shake hands
with the others. It seems to me disgusting. That's all. Maybe
you will not agree but this is something personal.
Huw:
Tora
said: |
They
are washed with saliva and you play with them and shake
hands with the others. It seems to me disgusting. That's
all. Maybe you will not agree but this is something
personal. |
What about
that trick (I can't recall who did it) where the magician
swallows some thread and then he seems to pull it out of his
stomach through his own skin...?
It was shown on TV in Britain a while ago. I believe
the man had actually inserted the thread under his skin. When
an audience member pulled it out, it seemed to be wet with
the man's blood! That really made me cringe.
I'm guessing that this is the sort of 'magic' that
would not appeal to you, Tora?
Tora:
Yes
Huw, That kind of tricks do not appeal me. On the other hand
my mentor is a world wide famous Indian Fakir: Dr. Morgan.
He does things alike not in a disgusting fashion. They s
urely
know how to do those in an artistic way. Anything out of "aesthetics"
do not appeal me in short.
Damien:
Am I
right in thinking that David Blaine done the effect Huw explained?
I also remember it being revealed on T.V as well?
Tora:
I am
so sorry I did not have the chance to watch it, yet.
Mike:
Once
again Tora, I cannot tell you what an honor and a privilege
it is to have you here. Thank you for this. Usually those
who make it to the top, such as yourself, have some strong
roots in their presentation from who influenced their career.
This influence could be a teacher or present and past performers
who the person in question looked up to as their skills and
abilities grew and took shape. Who do you consider to be your
biggest influences in your magic, both past and present? Who
are among your favorite magicians, both past and present?
Tora:
This
is probably the hardest question, of the forum....To be honest
at the beginning, I consider myself as a "magician born
man" so ? had no influences.
I have only let the spectators shape me up. BUT, whom
admire best is another question. The answer for me is quite
easy: SALVANO. The elegance in style and the clean moves without
cumbersome equipment have all affected me. Nevertheless it
was not my style, I will never be like him.
Which magicians I like to watch needs another answer:
-Aldo Colombini, Jeff McBride, Max Maven. Juan Tamariz, The
great Silvan, Lance Burton are the ones appeared in my mind.
Sop to speak I have my own style I have not been affected
by anybody, the spectators are the sculptors of this statue-me
!
|