Huw:
The title of this post says it all (What is your best mentalism
effect?) - what, in your experience, is the one mental
effect that is guaranteed to make the biggest impression?
Tom Cutts: Wow, Huw. The strongest effect is that of
getting inside someone's head and telling them what they think.
Mind reading has the greatest impact when it is done well.
Now the way to get there can vary from audience to audience
based on what you are going to get them follow you in or accept.
That part of the equation varies but the first part is, for
me, always the same. I believe people have a need to believe
in mind reading, that the mind is capable of things that seem
totally impossible, and it is. We can conceive impossible
things and eventually make them possible. Cheers, Tom
Sean: I asked the opposite of this question to Tora
the last time. Do you think coming from America has helped
your career prosper? Do you believe if you had been living
in a country of lesser economic magnitude and less accessibility
to magic etc, that you wouldn't be as good a magician as you
are?
Tom Cutts: Wow! great question, Sean. I may have to
come back and update my answer as I ponder this but... I truly
have been blessed with unbelievable access to the literature
and magicians that are here today. While those opportunities
are born of the fortune of prosperity, the realization of
those opportunities and the opportunities that follow in suit,
are born of the character of the person. You get the chance
to meet someone through circumstance, you talk in depth with
them and become friends or even just remembered acquaintances
because of your personal character, not chance. So, I have
made the best of some great opportunities that have come my
way quite simply because of where I live. I would like to
think that I would make the best the opportunities that came
to me regardless of where I lived. That said, we all have
the same chance to make the best of what we have. I think
magic is more than the tricks. It is about expressing something
and I think in every culture there is a form of excellence
in expression. And likewise each culture expresses different
things with their magic. It is a fantastically rich tapestry.
I love to see magicians from other cultures who use other
devices to deceive. Devices of timing, misdirection, or mechanics.
Seeing the difference breathes life into the creative fires.
There is, I believe, what makes one a "better" magician;
creativity and expression. That is available to everyone.
Mike: Tom, this will be a difficult series of questions,
I have no doubt, but I'd like to get your insights on this.
In your opinion (yourself excluded from this), who are the
top three mentalists in the United States? Also, who are the
top three internationally? Why do you feel that these men
are deserving of your high opinion of them?
Tom Cutts: OK Michael, That is a tough question. Generally
speaking I don't like lists of top or best this or that. I'm
gonna stumble through it and come back later if it solidifies
in my brain but here is a rambling. I rate Richard Osterland
as one of the top mentalists in the US on his artistic merit.
The guy has some really strong presentations...really! Max
Maven I would have to say tops both US and International for
the breadth of his performing. He can run a gamut of emotions
through an audience. I'd put Banachek in the top three. But
now I have this feeling like I am overlooking someone and
I don't like that feeling. If that person reads this I apologize.
Email me immediately. I know there are some very strong corporate
guys but I don't know them in the least. Faulkenstien and
Willard had the second strongest effect on me so they would
have be in there somewhere. Then you have guys who made a
single contribution that changed the way mentalism is done.
Guys like Lee Earl and Larry Becker. Doc Hilford does some
very strong mentalism pieces but then jumps into psychic stuff
as well, does that count? Some of his stuff is really strong.
Internationally I am more at a loss. Ted Leslie certainly
tops the charts as does Gary Kurtz. Keep in mind I am much
less traveled in mentalist circles than magic so I'm really
at a loss for International guys. I'll keep thinking maybe
something will click.
Magic Chief Thomas: Hi Tom, who was it that inspired
your interest in magic?
Tom
Cutts: Wow again, Inspired can be on so many levels. I'm
going to have to ask for some clarification here, or at least
have you run the order on level at a time. Inspired my first
interest? Inspired my strongest or deepest interest? Inspired
my presentations? I guess my first real interest came from
trying to fool my friend Tim, and he fool me, as kids buying
books from the mall bookstore. After that there was Copperfield,
I didn't relate to Henning. Very soon after that there was
Paul Harris, then all heck broke loose. My presentations however
are inspired by life. They are either little stories of life
or they are experiments into the potential of we humans. Ok,
now it's getting weird, I better stop there. Cheers, Tom
Damien: Hi Tom, What are you thoughts on learning material??
Many up and coming magicians use videos, books, DVDs to enhance
their magic skills. I am definitely one of these people and
I think that learning material is great. Do you think this
makes magic too 'open'? Now it is obvious that just knowing
the secrets will not make you a top class magician, but do
you think the high increase in learning material has helped
magic or not?
Tom Cutts: Ah, Damien! The age old question, "How
much knowledge is too much knowledge?" I get to unleash
my first rant here and you get the first crack at my stance
on this. Some would say get rid of all but a few sources and
learn just from those. I say they are coming from a deficient
perspective. If someone tells you they can't decide where
to start, or stick with anything, because they have too much
to choose from, then they are deficient in the decision making
process. And that isn't the fault of the information sources.
Try this one on. You are hungry. You walk into a restaurant.
They offer over 200 dishes. Can you decide on something to
eat? If you really are hungry you can. And so it is in magic.
For decades magicians have bought the latest and greatest
in hopes of finding their instant reputation maker. Well,
they get a reputation alright. No, if too much access to information
keeps one from taking action, it is the fault of the person
and his decision making process. Conversely, the person with
a deep library is equipped to research fully a routine, or
move, or???? So all those DVDs, and videos, and books are
great!!!!!! Hey, if your library is keeping any of you from
taking action, send what you don't want to me. I'd be glad
to help. Now, on the great debate of quality, yes I think
video has given birth to less and less introspection of the
expository process of teaching magic. Far too much of the
"just go like this" approach and not enough of the
"actually the tip of the pinky acts as a lever to move
the...". Yet done well, there are things on video that
would be very difficult to glean from books. I do worry that
video is enabling the learning of mimicry instead of study
but that is another case of the viewer's fault not the medium's.
Last but not least, does all this info make magic too "open"
a little. I think information should be shared to foster growth,
but I truly believe that every performer should have one secret
that will never be revealed. You can speculate, you can imitate,
but you will never know all the true finesse. Such things,
like "52 Faces North" are the legends of an art.
Once exposed they wither and die. Wha'da'ya think of that?
Mike: I think that's the most well thought, interesting
and comprehensive answer I've ever seen to that question.
Thank you for those very valuable insights.
Magic Chief Thomas: Do you think Derren Brown is good
at what he does with the mind?
Tom Cutts: I have seen his first two specials. I think
he is quite good at what he does. I'm not convinced that it
will work for an American audience, but then I'm rather certain
he has consultants that can help adapt his style to the American
creature.
Cathal: Hi Tom and thanks for being our guest here
at Bunny for the week, anyway, I'm going to ask you a question
I asked TORA too cos you can never have enough different professional
opinions! How would I go about getting more performing experience
with magic? Any help would be appreciated.
Tom Cutts: It is really hard sometimes to scrounge
up free shows just to get experience. I'm sure you have heard
about all the sources for that. What was most beneficial to
me was finding others of my skill level and getting together
to share ideas and then put our heads together to put on a
show for a paying, even if only five or ten bucks, lay audience.
I found that at first at the Oakland Magic Circle and then
later at Club 53 in Pleasant Hill. There is energy in numbers,
use that energy to create bigger things than any one could
on their own.
Cathal: How often do you practice and what would you
do in your average practice session?
Tom
Cutts: Practice. I'll tell you if you promise not to follow
my lead. Practice is something I learned about on a guitar.
I'd practice this scale, that riff, these chords, on and on.
It was real work, not a lot of fun, but could be quite rewarding.
But when I started writing my own songs, I started practicing
less. It was great because I could cover more material in
a shorter time. I thought it had to do with me "getting
it" about guitar. Now, I think there was an entirely
different reason. When you create something it is a part of
you, and, hence, you can recall it accurately and easily.
When I started to create my own presentations in magic, I
found exactly the same. The routines that were born from me
come as easily as breathing. The ones where I am doing an
awkward handling or someone else's presentation are the ones
that require constant practice to keep. I feel very fortunate
to only practice my routines once or twice a week. Now, if
I am working on something new, it can consume me. I don't
consider that practice so much as pursuit of the art. But
once that consuming work is done and the routine has become
me, the need to rehearse it four or five days a week just
isn't there. It is an insight I just snuck up on. When I was
in High School I would practice moves and such five or six
days a week. I'm not saying I remember all those moves but
I have trained myself to learn moves rather quickly. I wish
that were the case with fencing.
Darren: Hi Tom, Welcome to magic bunny and thanks for
taking the time and effort to share your thoughts. As a professional
you must perform to differing types of audiences, public and
corporate, sober and drunk ! During your career, at conventions
and in competitions you would also have encountered an audience
full of magicians. In my opinion a magician dominated audience
is a tough crowd, they sometimes lack response, fail to laugh
at tried and tested gags and have to be encouraged to clap.
Recently I had the pleasure of watching a four hour video
recording of a close-up competition held in London a few years
ago performed in front of a room full of magicians. Certain
effects wowed the crowd, others that would bring down a house
of lay-people failed to register at all. So when performing
in front of magicians, which effect do you do to whip the
crowd into a frenzy ? Also, when watching other magicians
yourself, do you still experience a sense of wonder for certain
performers or effects ? Or is it a case of admiring the skill
and watching ahead of time for those special moves ? For me
it is a combination of both... watching a card expert manipulate
the deck, seeing each special move performed without the knowledge
of the audience is skillful and enjoyable... seeing David
Copperfield fly whilst sitting in the front row of the theatre
is magical (even though I know how it is done... or at least
think I do!) Would welcome your thoughts...
Tom Cutts: Hi Darren, thanks to you and everyone for
the gracious welcome you have extended to me. True story:
My first competition ever, a little local thing, I was closing
with Vernon's “Symphony of the Rings.” It was met with stunned
silence...well, at least I know there was silence. Half way
through, I decided this audience doesn't deserve this performance.
I put the rings down, silently bowed and walked off. Pretty
bad conduct but not totally off base. Over the years I have
learned a few things. One is to never enter a competition
with the only goal being winning. There really are things
you will have no control over that will decide the placing.
I'm talking personal style preferences of judges and accidental
biases. Stuff like that. It's just gonna happen. Magician
audiences are notorious for not reacting with anything that
would resemble a lay audience. If you structure an act knowing
that, you can actually sculpt an act that will get magicians
involved. It might sail over the heads of a lay audience but
magicians will eat it up. That is, now, the type of stuff
I perform around magicians. Stuff that is geared to take full
advantage of the situation. At FISM there was a table of guys
mostly from Spain doing some very nice and elaborate card
stuff. I did a simple card reverse but hammed it up by flipping
on my back and making a big scene about turning the card over
with my mind. The lone layperson howled when she saw that
card. The card guys just scowled at such craziness. Oh yeah,
they also hid my shoes. That was funny! Now, if your audience
is magicians, you really shouldn't be using tried and tested
(i.e. obvious) material. That isn't going to get any reaction
other than knowing stares. Figure out what you can do to hit
them where they think. ;) I like to mix a few things that
will fry them in with several things that are just wild journeys
of fun...alla David Regal type stuff. When I'm watching I
typically am watching the presentation technique. The trick
part really is of little use to me, tricks I have plenty of.
Seeing what is going on to present a routine can be applied
to any "trick". I try to let myself enjoy as much
of the performance as possible but, you know, if I am drifting
ahead in the method it means something is missing in the presentation.
But that doesn't just hold for magic. I do this at movies,
plays, live comedy, and all sorts of stuff. Now a guy like
Reed McClintock I could watch doing his coin work for hours.
Martin Nash is a marvel to behold with a deck of cards. These
things are really beautiful to one who knows the technical
aspects of what is going on. But mostly it is the guys who
have worked out every angle of the presentation to really
overpower a lay audience that I watch. And if it is a close
up session I'm likely to Jazz off the others and improvise
on the spot. I guess I will leave you with my rule of three
for lecture attending. One rarely gets anything great from
a lecture until the third viewing. In the first, just enjoy
the material, the structure, the presentation. In the second,
look closely for those thing you would like to add to your
repertoire. In the third lecture you should now be ready with
some in depth questions for the performer. Questions gleaned
from your making yourself familiar with a routine or three.
Hmmm....Did I get to your question?
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