Duncan
Trillo: Hi Elwood,
Great
question and one that I'll enjoy trying to answer.
"Do
you feel that the cult of Blaine, and "Nu-Magic"
(Monkey Magic, etc) is killing traditional manip acts off,
or do you sense a return to the physical skill and dexterity
in Magic that was once commonplace in the Music Hall and Vaudeville
era?"
Lots of manip acts probably deserve to be killed off! Some
of the worst magicians I've ever seen have been silent acts
devoid of personality or anything else. The reverse has also
been true - for me some of the very best have been manipulators:
Pollock, Cardini, Ross, Hart, McBride, Nielsen, Burton, early
Copperfield...
Having
said that I really do think that David Blaine coming onto
the scene a few years ago was the best thing that could have
possibly happened in the UK to get things going; magic really
had hit an all-time low. Traditional manipulation acts never
worked that well on television anyway, magic is so much better
live, up close in a night club. There's a lot more going on
in Europe. I'm not sure if an opportunity for visual acts
to present their work will ever come back in the UK, we seem
to be stuck with a pub/club (club as in disco) culture. Most
of my professional work has always been either in Europe,
Japan or on cruise ships - three markets that are still solid.
"Although
what you perform is Magic in the sense of the impossible,
to many younger Magicians I suspect that the time and dedication
needed to develop the skills required by this branch of the
Art are what pushes them towards the Blaine style of quick
tricks and minimal presentation."
I think you're right. When I grew up it was seeing Johnny
Hart's card manips or Finn Jon's floating ball that did it
for me, now young magicians see Blaine so take that route.
Like any skill learning to back palm a deck of cards takes
dedication but you can practice in front of the TV if you
want, it's not too bad, unlike a juggler - now those guys
really have to work hard.
"However,
there may come a time when this youngest generation of Magicians
grow tired of the same old, same old, and come back around
to the old way of thinking."
Yep - sleight of hand magic, be it close-up or on stage, will
out last the latest novelty long term - put Channing Pollock,
as he was, on stage at any venue in the world today and he'd
still storm it.
"So,
do you see yourself (and your contemporary manip artistes)
as the last in line, a refreshing alternative or (playing
devils's advocate) the Magic equivalent of self-indulgent
Jazz music?!"
The last in a line? Self indulgent? Hope not! No not at all
really... magic is ever evolving and a good manip act can
still be contemporary if it wants to be.
Quality
in anything lasts. Look at music. How would it be if all we
listened to was whatever was "the latest" in the
top ten? Instead people listen to Blues, Classical, Opera,
Country, Dance, Disco, Rock-n-Roll, Folk, Garage, Psychedelic,
Glam Rock, House, Techno, Indie/Brit Pop, Instrumental, Jazz,
Latin, New Age, Pop, Punk, R&B, Soul, Rap, Hip-Hop, Reggae,
Ska, Rock in all its forms, Movie Soundtracks, Theatre Soundtracks,
and so on! And we are all better off for it.
In
other words fashions come and go but if you master magic in
any form then so long as you are good a bright future awaits!
Thanks
again for the questions Elwood,
All
the best,
Duncan
Elwood:
"In other words fashions come and go but if you master
magic in any form then so long as you are good a bright future
awaits!"
There's a very important point being made here, that I shouldn't
have to point out, but will just in case anyone misses it.
Do
what feels right to you, and do it until you are good at it.
Forget
fashion, forget what your mates think, do what you do best,
and do only that.
Sometimes,
you might be best at something you don't enjoy as much as
something in which you are only good, but it's up to you to
decide what route to take at the crossroads this realisation
presents you with.
As
far as the bright future, yes, there is always a future for
the very good, but as the late great Barry Sheene said, "Don't
wait for your ship to come in - swim out and meet it!"
Mouser:
The issue of exposure continue to be an active topic for magicians.
I must admit that I was particularly impressed by Peter Marucci’s
comments about the damage that poor magicians make far outweighing
the damage of public exposure programmes. What in your opinion
is the greatest threat to “sound magic”?
Duncan
Trillo: Hi Mouser,
I’m
not 100% sure if I understand your question, but I’ll
have a go! Without the secret there is no magic. Magic can
also be exposed through poor performance but that for me is
a separate argument.
It’s
wrong to drop litter, but sometimes when someone puts a sweet
wrapper in their pocket to take home it may fall out onto
the street by mistake… but you wouldn’t call that
person a “litter bug” – it was a mistake.
"What
in your opinion is the greatest threat to “sound magic”?"
Magic exposed on TV.
All
the best,
Duncan
Sean:
Hi Duncan
I
know that you've had one TV appearance (if only your hands)
in the Va Va Voom advert. Did you enjoy doing that? I guess
it didn't take too long though I could be wrong! Have you
had any other TV time? Or connections with other magic programs?
Duncan
Trillo: Hi Sean,
The
Va Va Voom ad was fun to do. The actual card work was recorded
in about 10-15 minutes but I was in the studio for a couple
of hours. I actually like the ad as well, and magic is seen
as being "va va voom" or cool. I've done a number
of commercials involving card manipulation, four I think.
TV
wise I've done quite a lot over the years, normally as a guest
with a spot of silent magic. Wayne Dobson's series was good
to do, and lots of odds and ends about 30 spots, plus some
TV in Japan. Really though, unless you are talking, television
is pretty limited for a silent act.
All
the best,
Duncan
Sean:
A question I like to see all the guests answer, even though
its a very old one , is; How exactly did you get started in
magic? Who were your most major influences? Was there any
one moment when you just got interested or did it develop
over time?
Duncan
Trillo: Hi,
My
actual interest, as far as I can remember, was sparked by
seeing a boy in the school play ground when I was about 6
showing some other boys some tricks. A plastic sliding coin
case, the Chinese wallet and a trick with three coloured luggage
tags. He kept the secret to himself and I really wanted to
work it out!
I
got started by putting together a silent act and performing
it during a show that my local magic club, based in Southampton,
were putting on. I was about 16 and rather than use the organist
and drummer as everyone else did I recorded 'Shaft' back to
back on a cassette and got someone to hold a mike to the cassette
player! Fantastic!!
Major
influences for me were Finn Jon's floating ball routine, Johnny
Hart's card work, Victor Burnett’s fire act and FISM
world champion Richard Ross.
There
have been periods in my life when I've "switched off"
from the magic - not a bad thing to do every so often I guess!
All
the best,
Duncan
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